Understanding God's Love: In-Depth Conversation with Francis Chan and Lecrae In this thought-provoking episode, Lecrae sits down with pastor and author Francis Chan to discuss the concept of God's unconditional love, the struggles with insecurity in faith, and the challenges faced by Christian leaders today. Reflecting on personal experiences, including Francis stepping away from a mega church and Lecrae's mental breakdown, they explore the depth of feeling loved by God and the importance of being secure in this love. Francis Chan shares his journey of moving from striving to earn God's love to resting in the assurance of being beloved by Him. Together, they delve into the profound impacts of internalizing God's love on their lives and ministries, emphasizing that knowing and believing in God's love is a supernatural experience facilitated by the Holy Spirit.